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JonB256
DMX Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Location: Granbury, TX Online Status: Offline Posts: 130 |
Quote Reply Posted: 29 Aug 2008 at 10:18am |
Did some testing today on my XP machine (normal sequencing machine because it has dual monitors) and want to commend you guys on "code efficiency." Playing back a sequence with the visualizer on, I looked at CPU usage. Both cores of my Opteron were averaging 50%. Not too bad, but then I switched to Grid only mode and it runs at 3% to 5% max with just little spikes when it changes screens. That is very impressive. I'll try it on the "now working" Vista with Quad-Cores later. As far as the two files above being "unregistered" I just re-registered them once I got swapped to DirectShow in Vista. I have no more problems. Update - looked at CPU usage in Vista on my Quad-Core. With Visualizer ON, CPU was right at 38% on the total indicator. Not too bad and about where I expected. The odd thing is that CPU#4 was doing all the work, showing closer to 85% with just 5% to 10% on the other 3 cores. Edited by JonB256 - 30 Aug 2008 at 8:24am |
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LightsOnLogan
Admin Group Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3187 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 3:56pm |
Unregistering MSCOMM32 and then installing/repairing Aurora should be safe. I'm still going to look into a reg-free option as the official fix. |
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LightChristmas
Beta Testers Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Location: Equality, IL Online Status: Offline Posts: 993 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 2:23pm |
A few things I've discovered:
Unregistering Mscomm followed by an install of Aurora will work fine - no com errors to a controller. This is ONLY my experience - lets let a few other try before closing the case as it were.
Having the D-Light hardware utility open will cause an installation crash (and vice-versa) as both use Mscomctl. May want to fool-proof the install in this regard.
DirectShow and MSDXM will both run on an XP machine, so you may wish to have it default to Directshow with the option of using MSDXM. May save time with the code tweaking.
Annnd I'm spent.....
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LightChristmas
Beta Testers Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Location: Equality, IL Online Status: Offline Posts: 993 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 1:18pm |
Hadn't thought of that, although I should have! Had "tunnel vision" at the time. Will lug out the junker again, hook a controller to it and see what happens.
Would be best if a few more folks (like those affected) would do the same so we can get a better sampling at getting it all nailed down.
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LightsOnLogan
Admin Group Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3187 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 12:45pm |
I need to run this through a Vista box in the lab to be sure, but I am suspicious that the above fix may cause some problems with unreliable output to the COM ports.
I wonder if building an XML manifest for MSCOMM32 and attempting to run Aurora with that file from reg-free com would work? I wouldn't distribute the installer this way, but it might be a suitable support patch for those unusual machines with an incompatible MSCOMM32 installed.
Regarding DS, I've added a support case to have Vista auto-configure to the proper playback engine.
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Fred S
Pre-Order User Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 11:58am |
After reading the posts this morning I unregestered mscomm32 and then tried to run Aurora 0.7.1. (I did not reregester or reboot computer before opening Aurora) The program opened up with the message about changine to directshow for Vista. I loaded a sequence and then changed the playback to Directshow. I then played the sequence and it seemed to work. I have not tried to edit sequence or control actual lights yet. Later on this evening (after work, or it may have to wait until this weekend) I will try to edit a sequence to make sure things are running correct.
This may be a work around and hopefully the problem can be isolated and correted in the final release.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Keep up the good work.
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LightChristmas
Beta Testers Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Location: Equality, IL Online Status: Offline Posts: 993 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 5:42am |
Had no luck with Vista Ultimate - my beta test key for it had already expired. While I'm committed (or should be committed! ) to beta testing Aurora, I really don't want to shuck out the bucks for Ultimate. I suspect the person(s) experiencing install issues can fix it the same way (unregistering Mscomm32).
I'm certain that once the instuction manual is finished, there will be a troubleshooting guide somewhere in it to cover such things.
Edited by LightChristmas - 28 Aug 2008 at 5:45am |
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JonB256
DMX Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Location: Granbury, TX Online Status: Offline Posts: 130 |
Quote Reply Posted: 27 Aug 2008 at 10:34pm |
The MSDXM usage was definitely a problem, but that was what my install defaulted to in Vista. My install was fresh, not an upgrade. If you can make it default to DirectShow for Vista users, it will help most people. Until I un-registered those two files, I couldn't see the menu screens to make the change to DirectShow. Kind of a Catch-22.
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LightChristmas
Beta Testers Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Location: Equality, IL Online Status: Offline Posts: 993 |
Quote Reply Posted: 27 Aug 2008 at 9:00pm |
Update
Just finished installing Vista Home Basic (SP1) without any add-ons. Auroa installs/runs with no probs. Uninstalled Aurora and installed all the MS updates, enabled native firewall, and installed AVG anti-virus. Aurora was reinstalled/run/uninstalled without any problems Then went to one of those "freeware/abandonware" sites, and waddaya know? It wanted to install an ActiveX plugin. Had nothing to lose so allowed the install of the plugin. Rebooted machine and tried installing Aurora. KEEERASH. Thank you, move along, nothing to see here.
Only copy of Vista Ultimate I have is from back when I was beta testing it. We'll see what happens.
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LightChristmas
Beta Testers Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Location: Equality, IL Online Status: Offline Posts: 993 |
Quote Reply Posted: 27 Aug 2008 at 8:11pm |
The deal with MSCOMM32 is it tries to be many things. Primarily its a Visual Basic communications intepreter, but its also used for ActiveX routines - some of which are less than friendly to MSCOMM by altering it.
You cannot use MSDXM in Vista - it doesn't exist and is totally ignored by Vista (if you'e nutty enough to copy it over from XP like I did!:D ). This is why Vista users MUST use DirectShow.
Offhand, I'd say you've licked the problem, and gives me some ideas to try tonight.
The error on exit is a known problem and will be fixed, but its more of a cosmetic issue which doesn't affect normal operation - so its low on the to-do list. Edited by LightChristmas - 27 Aug 2008 at 8:13pm |
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