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Posts: 124 		  Quote Buckeyelights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2011 at 7:56am

Thanks Chris & Tom.  Now I can look forward to the enhanced version of Aurora without major revamping of my system.

Tks!
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Posts: 1341 		  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 11:17pm
JS1 is making the 2 Univ ECG with or without Aurora. Actually it was in existence last fall, just not production.  If you see early videos of the DR4, you can see it on the table.  There is no difference between the 2 and 4 unit version besides univ output.  Both are E1.31.  Michael says it will require an E1.31 adapter ...(keywords coming)..."such as the DR4".

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Posts: 144 		  Quote tonyjmartin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 9:40pm
Originally posted by ChrisL1976

Thanks, I missed that post. If I remember right, I believe JS1 is coming out with 2 universe ECG this year though for a bit cheaper.  Keep an eye out for possible  presale pricing if you plan to go that route.  If you are ever planning on using RGB pixels.....go ahead and go the DR4 route because you will need the channels.

In this thread Michael refers to an Aurora product that WAS going to be produced by Joshua 1 Systems:

Originally posted by LightsOnLogan

We may bring back D-Light dongle and OpenDMX USB based DMX solutions in the future, but they are not our target for development at this point in time.  All active development is focused on E1.31 right now.

We were negotiating with J1 to produce an Aurora branded E1.31 adapter with only 2 universes at a lower entry price point ($89-$99 range), but in the end we decided to focus on the software and to stay out of the hardware business.

Michael

If this is the "2 universe ECG" to which you are referring, Michael is no longer pursuing negotiations with Josua 1 Systems to offer this adapter.  So the price point remains at $145 plus shipping for the ECG-DR4.
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Posts: 1341 		  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 9:11pm
Thanks, I missed that post. If I remember right, I believe JS1 is coming out with 2 universe ECG this year though for a bit cheaper.
Keep an eye out for possible  presale pricing if you plan to go that route.  If you are ever planning on using RGB pixels.....go ahead and go the DR4 route because you will need the channels.


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Originally posted by ChrisL1976

Tom.....I guess there is a question for Michael. 

Is Aurora going to be strictly E1.31 output or will the V3 D-light dongle work also? 

From the Facebook page:
"To update D-Light controllers to DMX is a relatively simple process which involves switching out one socketed chip on each controller. If nobody else steps up to the plate I will be happy to program your preprogram PICs and ship them to you for only the cost of the PIC itself and shipping. You do *not* need to mess with your D-Light V2 or V3 adapters because they will no longer be used (an E1.31 adapter, such as the DR4, replaces them)."

The model mentioned is the EthConGateway ECG-DR4 from Joshua 1 Systems.  It lists for $145 plus shipping.
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Posts: 1341 		  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 8:51am
Tom.....I guess there is a question for Michael. 

Is Aurora going to be strictly E1.31 output or will the V3 D-light dongle work also? 
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Posts: 344 		  Quote MrChristmas2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 8:44am
LOR controllers allready support dual protocol. DMX and LOR.
If you move forward when Aurora goes to E1.31 DMX-over-IP you would have to aquire new dongle interface hardware. The interface plugs into your ethernet port vs the USB port on your computer.
 
This change really doesn't have anything to do with RGB support. DMX is just a replacement industry standard communications protcol for the Software to communicate with the controller hardware. If you don't know what the protocol means it is simply the digital languge that the hardware understands when the computer sends information out it's USB port to the LOR dongle. The LOR dongle just translates the signals to the proper type to transmit those commands over long distances to the light controllers.
 
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Posts: 1341 		  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 8:43am
Joe

LOR hardware will run in a DMX environment without any issues. I know a couple guys currently doing it. 

As for D-light controllers.  This requires a fairly cheap upgrade to the controller. You will need to switch out one of the chips in the board. If I remember right, the chips are less than $5 each.  I do believe Aurora has offered to sell the chips already programmed for just the cost of the chip plus shipping.  The DMX firmware for the D-light controllers is pretty nice.  It allows you to set LED dimming curve so if you have different LED brands, you can get all of them to match.  The guys who worked out the firmware did a excellent job.


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Would someone explain to me in "newbie, non-technical, really simple, English" what this update, copied from the Facebook page means:
"‎1) We are dropping the proprietary LOR and D-Light protocols and switching to the more reliable industry standard DMX protocol. This should not be a problem since there are replacement firmwares which give these controllers DMX support.

2) DMX will be supported via the E1.31 DMX-over-IP protocol. The ECG-DR4 is a good E1.31 controller for use in this new architecture."
 
Here is my personal situation:
 
I've been very happy with Aurora 1.0.69; though some enhancements such as faster copy/paste and colored event markers would be really nice to have. 
 
I'm not currently planning to move to RGB; though maybe sometime in the future when an easy, relatively quick software is available to sequence the huge number of channels involved is available, I'd consider it.  Or maybe an single element in RGB, such as the star Chris created would be nice to have and controled via Aurora.
 
There are several "comments" about D-Light controllers and what changes will need to be made to use them with the new DMX version of Aurora.  I use LOR hardware, how will the new version of Aurora work with LOR hardware? Will I need to make changes to those controllers? Will I need new DMX controllers?
 
Just a thought, it sounded like version 1.1 was very close to being released; that included some enhancements & features; any chance that version could be released? Then a future release of E1.31 DMX (whatever that is)?
 
I appreciate the status update, just wish I understood what it means to me?
 
Thanks!
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You have access to the DMX forum.
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