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LightChristmas
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Topic: output to the controller Posted: 23 Sep 2008 at 10:10am |
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Its really hit or miss on some USB ports. Not so much Microsloth as it is hardware developers that want to save that extra .02 cents by not adding that extra regulator. Largely depends if there is sufficient current on the +5V line - which is why USB hubs (the ones that use wall warts) tend to have a better success rate.
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tonyjmartin
Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Location: Traverse City, MI, USA Online Status: Offline Posts: 144 |
Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2008 at 9:22am | |
That explains the seemingly hit-or-miss success I've had with my webcam, digital camera, camcorder, MP3/4 player, and D-Light USB-485. Sometimes they seem to connect immediately. Sometimes I see them installing. And sometimes I need to switch USB slots. Now I know that it's just the "Windoze Way of Things." I miss everything about Macs but the expense and lack of cheap third party products. Thanks, guys! I knew there was a reason that we let the geeks hang out here. |
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ChrisL1976
Beta Testers Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Kankakee, Ill Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2008 at 8:02am | |
USB hub works fine with the RS485. In Fact, on the computer I run my shows on, its the only way I can get the finicky little b@stard to recognize the RS485 is if I plug it into a external USB hub I have hooked to the computer. |
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Pony_God
Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551 |
Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2008 at 8:01am | |
There are powered and non-powered hubs, you are most ilkely using a non powered hub, that does not have the extra voltage to pass down the line.
In generall, there are two USB chips, that drive the plungs on the back of the case (directly attached to the MB. Gennerally the ones that are on the from are considered to be a powered hub.
The main reason that manufactures don't want thier suff in hubs is because they don't want to explain powered vs. non powered vs. high speed vs. junk and then take the support calls on bad setups. They know that if thier stuff is in the back, they have the best connection.
Same plug in different ports with the same COM is how it's _supposed_ to work. Since we're in the MS world, and Windows likes to help when we don't want it's help, sometimes Windows does like to assisgn a new com port for the same hardware when it's just in a different slot.
I have a mouse that I have to plug into a specific port or it will try to reinstall the drives as though it's a new mouse, give it new ID, and reset all of the button programming. Put it back in the original port and Windows loads all of the stuff that was there before.
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JonB256
DMX Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Location: Granbury, TX Online Status: Offline Posts: 130 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2008 at 10:13pm | |
You may have a USB port like one of mine. Some things work when plugged in, some don't. If I plug in my Sansa music/video player, it isn't seen and won't charge. But, on the same computer, if I plug it into a USB port on the back (direct motherboard connection) it works perfectly. I haven't spent the time to investigate, but the port that doesn't work is an auxiliary set that connects by wires to the computer case. Probably a bad wire causing reduced or no voltage. |
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peteandvanessa
Beta Testers Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Location: Rocklin, CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2008 at 8:03pm | |
I believe there is problem with long ramps in the S/W (I have seen an issue with long random shimmers that don't get output to the lights but work on the simulation)
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tonyjmartin
Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Location: Traverse City, MI, USA Online Status: Offline Posts: 144 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2008 at 7:59pm | |
Nice analogy. Now this whole COM port concept makes sense. My next question, though. Is there a difference between the USB ports on a the back of the case (on the motherboard?) vs. the ones on the front of the case vs. using a hub? Can slow/fast USB come into play here? The reason I ask is that I have some other USB gear that specifically states in the documentation NOT to use a USB hub. Have I just been lucky, or could this be a problem waiting to happen in D-Light/Aurora land? |
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Jonathan
Beta Testers Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Online Status: Offline Posts: 1237 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2008 at 6:41pm | |
Plugging the USB cord into any port should result in the same COM # because it's the RS485 adapter (or LOR equivalent) that is doing the work. Think of it like plugging a lamp into any power outlet. The lamp will work the same way no matter which outlet you choose.
If you browse through some of the other forums, you'll find that the ramp issue is a known bug. We've been told it will be corrected with the next release, which should be pretty soon. |
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bcwinery
Newbie Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Location: Arlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2008 at 6:32pm | |
Ok, so my computer may be a little messed up. Hardware utility recognized that I was plugged into COM PORT 4. So that is what I made my setting, however, I changed USB ports on my computer, and Hardware Utility still recognized it as COM PORT 4. Different USB, same COM PORT. I dont know......Now it works. But I ran into another problem. Everything outputs just fine, except when I want to do a ramp shimmer, or a ramp twinkle. Regular ramp and regular twinkle work, but as soon as I mess with the Start and End levels, nothing goes on. If I make both the Start and End levels the same....it works just fine.
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LightChristmas
Beta Testers Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Location: Equality, IL Online Status: Offline Posts: 993 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 2008 at 9:17am | |
You can upload it here (pre-registration required).
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Aurorafileswappers/ |
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