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    Posted: 04 Sep 2008 at 11:45pm
How do you all do it? Lets say you've got 200+ channels... Do you...
A. Go though the entire song seuencing controller1?
B. Go though the entire song sequencing a single channel at a time?
C. Take a section of time at a time and do ALL sequences starting from the larger notes and working to the smaller ones?
 
I have about 1/3 of a song done. I started with the first main beats, then went back in and filled a bit more detial, did some more main beats, detail level 3, then level 2. That make sence?
 
So I slowly advance in a with progressivle less detail going back and bringing each section up as I go along.
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Originally posted by Pony_God

I started with the first main beats, then went back in and filled a bit more detial, did some more main beats, detail level 3, then level 2. That make sence?

Plenty.  I can't do a darn thing without having the time signature beats entered first (4/4, 3/4, etc.)  Then I start adding all the little musical phrases either as I go, or in big sections of the music.  Once the intervals are in, sequencing becomes much more fun for me.

When I started editing sound and film (yes actual film), one of the first things that I learned was to look up once in a while and try to see/hear the work I'd done so far with a fresh pair of eyes/ears.  It's hard, and sometimes you just have to go do something else for a while and come back to it.  Then let the sequence play a few times before you jump back in.  Taking notes during playback is helpful too.

Your mileage may vary.....Wink

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Last year was my first year and this may or may not be helpful to you.  I go through the song, after I get my intervals set, and sequence one item in the display at a time. ie the z-tree, then the chasing candy canes, then the yard outline, then the windows and roof lights, etc...
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fast chase sequences last - a lot easier to make tweaks when the grid is as uncluttered as possible
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I tend to skip around and sequence the interesting sections of the song, then figure out what I'm going to fill the in-between area with.
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I tend to sequence in a musical format myself (trying to represent things in the display with the lights), so this may not apply to your sequencing style:
 
I tend to sequence the lights the same way I would mix a live concert (yes, I've driven the mix console on many occasions).  First, I start with the rhythm bed... drums and bass usually.  After I have all of those beats down then I use split cells to set up animations between them.  Next, I move onto the background instruments, then lead instruments and background vocals, and lastly the lead vocal parts, building each "layer" in front of the previous (with a few exceptions for animations I generally put background mix elements into the background of the display and foreground mix elments into the foreground of the display).


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I tend to lay in the beat first then I lay in the transitions then all the interesting busy stuff then the filler things. Before I'm 1/2 way down I know what I want it to look like. Then after I'm done I'll go back and make changes and tweeks probably all the way unil new years day.
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