Long Ramps do not function
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Topic: Long Ramps do not function
Posted By: Pony_God
Subject: Long Ramps do not function
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2008 at 3:06pm
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Alright, this is on my Dell Vista box, USB485 to a single ACx16.
I'm doing a do a ramp out that's over 2 seconds and nothing happens on the lights. Under 2 second everything is fine.
The ramp is 100->10, but 100->0 does not work either.
Hardware utility can do a 25.5 second ramp out.
ACx16 version is 1.13 ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite! 
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2008 at 6:29pm
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It is probably in another thread or was sent directly to my email, but we're aware of this one. There was a change done to the ramp calculation formula a few betas ago (to fix another problem) and we made a mistake with the change that didn't get caught in beta testing. This will be fixed in the next version. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2008 at 7:49pm
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hum... sounds fammilier now, must have been in the middle of another thread. thanks! ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: jberner
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2008 at 7:32pm
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It was started in the "Wi-Link Can't Ramp" area a few threads further down. |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 9:00am
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Ah... THat's why, I was thinking that it was something funny with the WiLink communications. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: jberner
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 5:54pm
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It appears to be a general ramp issue and nothing related to the WiLink fortunately, or at least from my perspective. |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2008 at 6:33pm
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That's fine, there's still a 2 month buffer. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: webbtech
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2008 at 10:15am
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2 months? What about the guys starting shows on Oct 1?
I hope this is fixed very soon!
Mark ------------- Mark Webb |
Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2008 at 10:54am
All is well in WiLiink-land from the Aurora standpoint. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: webbtech
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2008 at 3:59pm
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Any word from the powers to be as to when the update will be available? Or should I plan on reverting back before 1.0?
Thanks
Mark ------------- Mark Webb |
Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2008 at 6:13pm
| I have the same issue, there's no word on the next revision, so I'm dropping back to an earlier version to get round the ramp issue |
Posted By: webbtech
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2008 at 6:48pm
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So if Im going back to .7 unistall 1.0 and reload .7 or do an repair starting .7?
thanks
Mark ------------- Mark Webb |
Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2008 at 7:23pm
| I would do an un-install of 1.0 and then just re-install 0.7. To be honest it's only the scheduler that we need to get running with the longer fades. |
Posted By: compfire
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2008 at 8:48pm
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Should I use v0.7 or v0.71? |
Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2008 at 9:12am
Just for clearification - If one were to just replace the scheduler with that from .7 long fades during show time would be ok?
Of course this may all be pending possible fix to this and any other fixes in any release prior to showtime. ------------- 
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2008 at 9:30am
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Well, I think we all would be happy if we knew that the bug would be fixed for halloween (Christmas for me).
I would expect that since Firefly was supposed to be in this version, 1.1 is on hold until then. I'd like to have to fixes/tweaks before Firefly persoanlly, since I'd like to do ramp testing, and possibly have some odd lockups fixed. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2008 at 10:10am
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I'm not holding my breath at the moment - Nov 25 is when my lights go on. I've tried most of my sequences and haven't see problems with the fades mostly because I unknowingly didn't use real long fades. A few of the more recent sequences might suffer and I'd just like to be prepared. If that means dropping the scheduler back-level to work-around the long ramp issue that's not a problem.
As for Firefly - it's cool but I haven't found a place I want to use it yet and for the first year 112 channels of D-Light seemed aggresive enough for me. A far cry from the 6 channels of pre-programmed, over fused, Mr. Christmas
 Can't wait to see some of the video's for 2008 where Firefly is used.. It may be lurking in my future. -------------
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2008 at 10:53am
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I'm starting with 64 channels and one (42 channel) firefly. Hard figuring out what to make all of the channels do with only 64! ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: compfire
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2008 at 8:45pm
You will figure it out. Just be creative. I have gone from 128 CH to 224 CH and Firefly. I hope it's not too much.
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Posted By: tonyjmartin
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2008 at 9:42pm
NEVER!!!! But seriously...when in doubt you can always set the twinkle rates to slow (with the HW utility) and then drop in long twinkle commands as needed. This saved us last year when the assembly of twelve controllers left me little time for sequencing.  ------------- Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson |
Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 12:51pm
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The fix for this is in the hands of the beta testers. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 2:49pm
| I'll be running a test tonight on my live Haloween set up. I'll let you know how I get on. |
Posted By: compfire
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 3:41pm
| I used ver. 0.71, and my long Ramps didn't work. I hope this fix is released soon, I am planning on running my lights tomorrow night. |
Posted By: webbtech
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 5:48pm
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I went back to .7 and mine still dont work either...
Im with you! Hope the beta testers are having good luck.
Im start my show Oct 1...
Mark ------------- Mark Webb |
Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 9:12pm
| I just ran some tests and the long ramps still have issues (both up and down ramps as well as shimmer and twinkle ramps). So looks like we will still need another revision for us Halloweeners :-( |
Posted By: compfire
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 11:36pm
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Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 2:54pm
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Along with other Beta Testers we have another release that came out today that should fix the Long ramps. I will be testing this later today and report out whether the long ramp bug is fixed. Stay tuned |
Posted By: compfire
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 3:16pm
 I will keep my fingers crossed. On second thought, I better not cross my fingers, it will be too tough to put up my Halloween lights that way. |
Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 3:29pm
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The beta testers have another version to test tonight. I don't usually do this but I know a lot of you have shows tonight.... If you don't have a show starting tonight then don't attempt this... we'll have a "stable" version later this week.
Version 1.0.1 B
http://www.aurorashow.com/downloads/aurora_1_0_1b.zip - http://www.aurorashow.com/downloads/aurora_1_0_1b.zip
Since this is still beta... BACKUP YOUR WORK BEFORE INSTALLING THIS!!!
After installing you will need to open your sequences in 1.0.1b and resave them before running them in the scheduler. This is necessary for them to "compile" with the new ramp values.
------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: compfire
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 3:54pm
THANKS! I will let you know if I have any problems (like a semi-beta tester)
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Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 4:55pm
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Just a heads up, the Beta testers just confirmed:
Ramps up/down fine (even long ramps).
Ramp up down combinned with shimmer or twinkle non-functional.
Most folks probably wont have ramps with shimmer or twinkles so this release might be ok for most folks.  |
Posted By: JonB256
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 6:12pm
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Shimmering and Twinkling Ramps are only good with firmware revision 1.14, I believe.
------------- JonB - D-Light user |
Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 6:20pm
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You are correct Jon |
Posted By: webbtech
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 7:05pm
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I always kinda thought the halloween guys where beta testers anyway!
I will be testing tonight too.
------------- Mark Webb |
Posted By: compfire
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 8:08pm
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Ran a quick test, on a song that was having problems. It seems to be working now. I will run a full show tomorrow night, and post any problems.
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Posted By: webbtech
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 8:45pm
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full show going on right now!!!!
there be ramps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- Mark Webb |
Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 9:16pm
sweeeeeet 
Mines gonna start running in 10 mins
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Posted By: webbtech
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 10:01pm
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Near perfect show tonight, other than minor items in programming to fix Im good. Thanks for all the hard work from the people at Aurora! Great job! ------------- Mark Webb |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 10:25pm
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I saw tht there was the 1.14, but everyone I asked thought the only update was for WiLink... So Shimmer/Twinkle ramps are in the 1.14 f/w as well, hu? I'll have to update my first two controlles then, bcause I DO do simmering ramps.
Not for halloween though ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 10:40pm
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1.14 was a WiLink fix. 1.13 first introduced the new effects.
------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 8:16am
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Ah, great. Then I'm up to date for my needs this year. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: kalifi
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2008 at 2:31pm
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Posted By: webbtech
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2008 at 2:34pm
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I have had perfect ramps since the update. Been running for two weeks straight with no issues what so ever! ------------- Mark Webb |