Serious Situation
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Category: Aurora Sequencer Software
Forum Name: Aurora 1.0
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Topic: Serious Situation
Posted By: bcwinery
Subject: Serious Situation
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 6:57am
| Ok, I am hoping there is an easy fix for this. I did all of the programming in my apartment. I have two controllers, 15 rows of lights, and 3 channels for flood lights. When programming, I had all 15 rows on one controller, and the three flood channels on the second controller. I went to my parents place this past weekend to set everything up for our wine festival this coming saturday. The vineyard is set up to have 7 rows on one controller, the floods on that same controller, and 8 rows on the other controller. I went into each song, clicked on the bulk channel editer, and changed the unit ID and channel numbers so they match the vineyard layout. Of course, I saved after each song, and didnt create a back up files, because I am an idiot. For reasons unknown to me, every song got screwed up. There are parts of every song, in the sequencer, where the first 7 channels got copied to channels 8-14, but not everywhere. Sometimes it got screwed up, sometimes it was fine. If there is no fix for this, I will have to go back through my entire show, before saturday, and reprogram channels 8-14. Also, there are parts where a channel has something on it, but it doesnt line up with the breaks that you put onto the sequencer, they are just kind of floating there. Please, before I crush my controllers out of frustration, help me. |
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 9:09am
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What version of Aurora is this?
1.0.25 and 1.0.29 had some glitches where data wasn't being displayed properly due to a bad index pointer but would playback to the lights just fine because the correct data really was there all along. If you are lucky and this is the case, then updating to 1.0.32 might be all you need to do to make things reappear.
1.0 and 1.0.2 had some bad issues with the bulk channel editor. If you were using one of thise versions then you very well could have created a serious mess. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: bcwinery
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 9:18am
| Well, I am using 1.0.29, but the lights would play just as they were shown on the sequencer. I will try to update to 1.0.32, hope to God that it fixes it. I spent a very long time on this show, and it needs to be completed this week. I started programming on verion 1, then upgraded as the new versions came out. The only time I used the bulk channel editor was with version 1.0.29. I will try it again tonight. |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 9:54am
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.... That's why I keep 3 backups of files at seperate physical locations.
Not that I expect Aurora to mess anything up, because I think that the computer might crash, thumb-drive lost, or I just mess up a large section. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite! 
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Posted By: bcwinery
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 10:02am
| Yeah I know....thats a little 20/20 hindsight now, but live and learn I guess. |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 10:07am
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Yep... Of course I do the same thing with all my files, only 2 locations for most things though. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: camdebuck
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 3:02pm
| Same here. Keep two copies on one computer and another copy on the laptop. You never know :) |
Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 3:14pm
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Cheap memory Space for the season......Email a copy to yourself........I know my Hotmail email account allows for 5gb of storage.
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 3:32pm
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ayup, done that before. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: mramsey
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 6:01pm
You guys made me nervous I'm backing up my files and putting them in a fire proof safe!
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Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 9:02pm
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I guess it's a good thing you don't live 2 miles north of me then, otherwise you'd have needed that fireproof safe! (I live very near the "freeway complex" fire that just happened in California). There is still a lot of ash and smoke in the air, and the bare hills are about to get rained on. Should be fun. ------------- ~Jonathan |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 10:57pm
You could get a cheap $10 thumb drive and backup the seqence files at least.
It's really just the time involved, not that it's irreplacable. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2008 at 11:01pm
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Tiger Direct has a sweet deal on 8 GIGAbyte thumb drives - $20! Yeesh! Twenty years ago, we thought 20 MEG was huge! ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: TheQueb
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 4:33am
20 years ago I moved from C64 to an ibm clone and paid about $1400 for the computer and an EXTRA $1000 per MEG of memory... ------------- 80 D-Light-ful Channels http://www.SoutheastTexasLights.com - Southeast Texas Lights http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light Users |
Posted By: mramsey
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 6:48am
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I remember having a commodore 64 that was connected to my tape player as a device to save to.
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 8:28am
Ah... but you only needed 1 Meg to run the entire computer, not 4 Gig like today.
Probably helped that the applications were only a few Kilobytes too. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: TheQueb
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 10:25am
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If I remember right, I had to buy a "memory manager program because DOS wouldn't recognize more than 640k ------------- 80 D-Light-ful Channels http://www.SoutheastTexasLights.com - Southeast Texas Lights http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light Users |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 11:15am
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HIMEM.SYS started moving stuff out of the first 640k?, but you could get (and I had) a ... um... some sort of ghost that only used 1k and moved other drives like mouse, and Trident video drivers out of low mem, so that the hi-powered games that needed all 640k could run. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 11:53am
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OK. Lets see how much of an "old fart" you are. What was this used for? debug -g=c800:1 and drivparm /D:x /F:7 /I And of course - Desqview and QEMM86  ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 2:31pm
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Lets see....
DEBUG was a kind of break out of the OS, go into the BIOS type thing... Kinda like a STOP-A on a SUN.
-g=c800:1... I'm guessing low-level format. I remember doing soumething like that for the old SCSI1 drives.
driveparam's easy, that sets the drive parameters so that the OS knows what it's accessing.
Well, I have no idea what Desqview or QEMM86 is... I remember passing parameters to EMM386.EXE. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: JonB256
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 7:24pm
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Quick - what was the difference between Extended Memory and Expanded Memory? and the A20 gate? ------------- JonB - D-Light user |
Posted By: jberner
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 8:08pm
Sucks to be an apple user. I hope you grew out of that habit somewhere along the lines... OPEN15,8,15,”N0:”DISKNAME,ID”:CLOSE 15 was the true mans (or kids) way to format a disk.
Deskview was an early gui if i remember right and qemm was a memory manager that was better than emm368.exe. Heck I thought I ruled the world when I ran a commodore 128 BBS with 2.2Mb storage online including early multiplayer games. Himem.sys, the first useful dos memory manager put small TSR code and other drivers like mouse.sys in to the space between the 640K and 1mb barrier. Emm386 and later qemm allowed you to put those and other types of programs in to memory beyond the 1mb limit which enabled the use of memory hog software like NIC, CD-ROM and sound card drivers in DOS which ultimately allowed us to have "great" games full of crappy grainy video for years to come. Man, what I wouldn't do for a 5K NIC driver again. I believe Expanded was the space between 640 and 1mb and extended was the space after 1mb if memory serves my correctly Sorry, the geek in me is coming out... (edited for spelling- I didnt fact check so I hope I got those right) |
Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 8:39pm
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g=c800:1 was used primarily to acces/launch the low-level format pgm for MFM, RLL and some SCSI drives. Most SCSI controllers used g=c250:5 Can't believe no one got the Drivparm - that particular command argument was used to get DOS to "see" 3.5" FDDs. Desqview - allowed multitasking on pre-windows systems, while QEMM broke the 640K barrier and allowed expanded/extended memory to be interchangeable on the fly. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: jberner
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 9:41pm
I saw drivparm on an apple in highschool, hense my comment about it. When I saw your response after mine I goggled it and it appears that it was on an apple to allow use of an IBM floppy drive, which I guess i didnt realize at the time. I do remember the pascal teacher being excited she had 2MB on her Apple. I thoought she was an idiot because i had that on my commodore for a year+ when she got that on her crapple 2. I was a commadork so you will have to forgive me for not realizing that one piece of inferior hardware was running another...  I have to admit if you were typing that in dos you have me beat... I came to Dos in 3.0 (or 3.2, that rings a bell too) and was mad because my 72MB ESDI hard drive had to be partitioned in to multiple drives until 3.3 came out. How many folks out there had a 287 co-processor? |
Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 8:45am
Sounds right, or the other way around...
g=c250:5... That's sounds more correct... I never low-level formatted many MFM or RLL drives, just normal formatting those huge 20M 1 cubic foot drives that took an hour to spin up.
Drivparm, really? 3.5"ers? I've never had any issues accessing any 3.5 drives, nor 5.25 drives for that matter.
Ah... the extra math co-processor. You had the proc, but have it do math? oh, far too much work. No moath-co was an option up to the 486SX erra, wasn't it?
I loved those grainy games! Man, they were FAST on less than an average cell phone today. Though in some sprites, some assembly in certains places and let-her-go! AND They fit on 1 or 2 floppies! There just wasn't ANY overhead in there.... and I don't remember any bug fixes/patches every months like today's games.
5K nic driver? You don't like that the 100M driver also installs 300M of utilites, managers, registry changes, auto-loaders, balancers, notification utilites, and auto-updaters?
Man, I remember carrying around a single floppy that had multiple drivers, common files, a boot sector, telnet, and some misc. system utilites on it. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: kalifi
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 11:03am
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I just know my dad was pissed when I played with his 5.25 floppys with...magnets... |
