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Topic: scheduler
Posted By: baelinc
Subject: scheduler
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 3:38pm
I have an all lights on static sequence for right now setup through the sequencer. It is suppose to start at 5:30 and stop at 11. It starts correctly every night at 5:30, but when 11 rolls around it stays on. I waited till 11:30 and it was still on, I had to stop the sequencer to make the lights turn off. What can be done?



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Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 3:49pm
Are you sure you have it set up correctly?
 
I've never seen an issue with the timer shutting off the sequence correctly. If you still have an issue try something like a software PC shutdown timer


Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 3:51pm
how long is your blank sequence?

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Posted By: baelinc
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 3:56pm
Yes... I have my 30 second sequence looping from 5:30pm till 11:00pm


Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 4:22pm
Just to make sure.....you do have it set for 11 PM.....not AM

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Posted By: baelinc
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 4:31pm
Correct... I just double checked to make sure and it does say 11:00 PM


Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 5:40pm
Yea, know... I had the same thing, I wanted the show to run one time, so I had it run from 7:00PM to 7:15PM and it just kept looping. I haven't tried it out for real yet. Not what I'm worring about at this point.

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Posted By: peteandvanessa
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 6:13pm
Something strange is going on then, since if I enter say 5 sequences (in the loop area of the scheduler) and set it for 10-11pm, then it will get to 11pm (run the last sequence) and then stop. It's never kept looping


Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 7:11pm
Are you by chance using that "undocumented feature" which keeps the lights on between songs?
If so, this is why your lights are staying on... that undocumented feature will also hold them after the scheduler ends as well.  To get around this you will need to create a "end of night" sequence to send the off commands.

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Posted By: baelinc
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 8:35pm
Thanks Logan... I just created an end sequence and have it in place to see if that fixes the problem... Will let you know later.


Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 9:24pm
I'm having the same problem that the schedule just keeps right on looping.  10PM is the end of my schedule.  I thought it was supposed to complete  the currently playing sequence then drop out and run the 'Run Once' at end.  10PM came and went. Sequences in loop list keep right on playing and Borealis never exited the loop to play the closing sequence. Had to manully stop the schedule.
 
My loop is about 2 hours in length but if Borealis is supposed to complete the currently playing sequence and exit the loop at the scheduled time  the length of the loop shouldn't really matter.


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Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2008 at 11:26pm
The scheduler will go through the rest of the loop first, not just stop after the song it's currently on.  So if your show ends at 10:00pm, and the first song of your 2 hour loop happens to be playing at 9:59pm, then at 11:59pm when the entire loop ends the scheduler will play your final end sequence.  On the other hand, if your 10:00pm end time approaches, and your last loop song (say 2 minutes) at 9:59 starts, then at 10:01 when that last song in the loop is done playing, your end of show sequence will play and then it's light off. 


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Posted By: TheQueb
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 4:24am
Originally posted by Jonathan

The scheduler will go through the rest of the loop first, not just stop after the song it's currently on.  So if your show ends at 10:00pm, and the first song of your 2 hour loop happens to be playing at 9:59pm, then at 11:59pm when the entire loop ends the scheduler will play your final end sequence.  On the other hand, if your 10:00pm end time approaches, and your last loop song (say 2 minutes) at 9:59 starts, then at 10:01 when that last song in the loop is done playing, your end of show sequence will play and then it's light off. 
 
Not that I do but if I had 150 songs in my playlist, if I understand you correctly, scheduler would finish playing ALL 150 of them before playing the end of night sequence and shutting down the show?  My show wouldn't shut off until morning?!?!?


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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 7:59am
There's only 37 not 150 LOL.  But thanks - Guess I need to rethink how I'm looping and split into multiple schedules. Run 1 loop for the first 4 hours then a shorter loop for the last 30 minutes.
 
Might be nice if the time check was done at the end of each sequence rather than the end of the loop. In that way one could exit the loop close to when the clock=end of schedule. Wouldn't necessarily be on the same sequence every time but would be close to the intended end of schedule without interrupting the currently playing sequence.


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Posted By: baelinc
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 8:28am
Logan's fix fixed mine for me... My show went off around 11:02pm


Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 11:13am
Originally posted by bdkeen

Might be nice if the time check was done at the end of each sequence rather than the end of the loop.
 
I think it used to be but we probably broke something during the past year.  I'll put it back the way it was for the next version, but I do not have an ETA at this time.


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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 11:58am
Oh, really? I asked that a while ago, and was told that it's always been an "end of loop" thing. I'd rather have end of song as well.
Of course I'd like a random playlist too, but that's just me.


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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 11:59am
I thought that's the way it was supposed to work and believe it did in some testing I did somewhere around v 0.6. 
I figured a work around that appears it will work by splitting into 3 schedules. Pre-show music only sequence(makes 1 pass), large loop (makes 2 passes totalling 4 hrs 5 minutes), then a shorter loop (~26 min) that should only make 1 pass and do the nightly closing as a Run Once.
 
Will run another full test tonight and see if this will work ok - preliminary testing indicates it might.
 
 


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Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 12:49pm
If you have 150 songs, simply create two shows that run right after each other, the second being for 15 minutes.  When the second one is scheduled to start, the first one will continue until the loop is finished.  Once the first show finishes (say 15 minutes into the second show's start time), then the second show will begin.  All you need to do is have 16 minutes worth of songs in the loop for your second show, so that when the end time hits, it will play one song until the closing sequence.  So long as the loop from the first show doesn't end past the end time for the second show, you'll be fine. 

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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2008 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by Jonathan

If you have 150 songs 
37 not 150. If I had 150 I'd be totally brain dead from all the sequencing.
 
I've split into 3 schedules:
1. 30 minute pre-show music only - 1 30 minute .dls file (5:00 - 5:15)
2. 37 music sequences and ~8 voice-over sequences 122:35 min for 1 pass, x2 = 245:10 min (5:30 - 9:30)
3. ~26 minutes of music and voice -over sequences (9:30 - 10:00)
 
Tested and this seems to be working ok. Should finish in the 10:00 to 10:15 timeframe.


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Posted By: TheQueb
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2008 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by baelinc

Logan's fix fixed mine for me... My show went off around 11:02pm
 
Hey Logan! Fix mine! Fix mine!
 
Seriously though, I'm curious why you would ever WANT borealis to "finish your loop" before checking the end time?  Seems to me that if users schedule their shows to shut down at 10pm, they'd WANT it to shut down as soon after that as possible. ie after the current sequence and then after the end of show sequence...  I'm working on songs throughout the season and don't want to have to recalculate song lengths any time I add a new sequence to the show.
 
 


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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2008 at 9:28pm

Ran 2 nights now after splitting to 3 loops.  Starts 5 PM on the dot (PC set to NTP) and finished 10:06 2 nights in a row perfectly.  Haven't seen the scheduler actualy go to a 'stop' condition even though the loop finishes and 'run once' closing plays..  Have actually seen the loop restart if I leave it unattended for several minutes. (made minor adjustment in schedule of final loop to see if this will correct)

Still really just a workaround by splitting into multiple loops so for me fixing the schedule isn't really critical at this time. I'm sure it'll get fixed during an upcoming release as Logan mentioned..


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Posted By: TheQueb
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2008 at 7:46am
So what do you do?  Put a number of songs into a number of schedules to occur at the same time? Like every loop runs between 5:30 and 10:00?  Or do you set it up where some run from 5:30 to 8:00, then another 8:00 to 9:30, then another from 9:30 to close and your end sequence on the last one and start sequence on the first?
 
Edit for one more question... Did the scheduler workaround from last year (the one that helped out with the Spectrum scheduler problems) work this way or did it end the show at the right time and play the closing sequence?


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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2008 at 8:57am

My show runs from 5:10 - 10:00 pm with 30 minutes of music only that starts at 5:00 PM.

So my schedule looks like this:
5:00- 5:15 - Pre-show music sequence
5:30 - 9:30 - Loop 1 (37 sequences and voice-over sequences, makes 2 passes of the loop and ends about 9:34)
9:30 - 10:00 - Loop 2 and the Run Once nightly closing voice-over (just over 26 minutes of sequences)
 
I couldn't speak about Spectrum. I have it but never really used it, just could never get the hang of sequencing with it.


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