1.0.41 (1.1 preview release 3) is here!
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Topic: 1.0.41 (1.1 preview release 3) is here!
Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Subject: 1.0.41 (1.1 preview release 3) is here!
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 10:30am
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Download location here:
http://www.aurorashow.com/downloads/aurora_1_0_41.zip - http://www.aurorashow.com/downloads/aurora_1_0_41.zip
1.0.41 (1.1 "preview release 3")
-------------------------------- - Adds "non show playlist" to Borealis (WPL or ASX format)
Note: Use http://centova.xltrax.com/tunein.php/csmith/playlist.asx - http://centova.xltrax.com/tunein.php/csmith/playlist.asx for 2008 PC radio - Adds Borealis playback option to end after current song instead of after entire show loop - Adds progress bar to decompile during file/open - Adds "Refresh Points" to file compilation (intended as a workaround to clear firmware stuck/misfired channels) - Adds auto-conversion of < 0.15s ramps to intensity rendered "pop" effect (intended as workaround to firmware misrendering of these events) - Fixes Borealis doesn't report show stop in status bar after it happens - Improves visualizer rendering of curtain strobes (faster fire rate) - Minor adjustments to Borealis heartbeat timing Some outstanding issues with the arch drawing tool (we though we had them fixed but recently found another bug) have kept this from being labelled 1.1.
Important: Read This:
If you are running 1.0.32 or 1.0.33 and are happy with it (don't need anything listed above) then stick with it as this is a non-essential upgrade. There is no need to risk taking your show down if you are happy with 1.0.32. If you do need one of the above items, then continue reading. You must fully uninstall all previous versions of Aurora (from Control Panel Add/Remove Programs) then reboot before installing this version. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 12:05pm
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Alright....
1. When?
2. and when's 1.1 NON-preview? ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite! 
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 12:29pm
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1: now
2: when the time is right ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 12:48pm
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will this fix my Candy cane issue that I had in another thread? I believe the fast ramps were the issue. Do I completely uninstall and then reinstall?
Slink
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Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 12:58pm
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From above: Important: Read This:
If you are running 1.0.32 or 1.0.33 and are
happy with it (don't need anything listed above) then stick with it as
this is a non-essential upgrade. There is no need to risk taking your
show down if you are happy with 1.0.32. If you do need one of the
above items, then continue reading. You must fully uninstall
all previous versions of Aurora (from Control Panel Add/Remove
Programs) then reboot before installing this version. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 1:04pm
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LC is correct on the amount of emphasis given to that sentence. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 1:28pm
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Alright, and so this converts <.15sec ramps to blinks of some sort, right?
We have a large show tonight... BUT would really like the few notes that are missing.
AFTER the uninstall, reboot, and install, do all sequences must be opened and re-saved? ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 1:32pm
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While I'm asking, and since it is clearly so important.
SHOULD the entire Aurora Directory be deleted after uninstall (after backing up audio and sequences)? ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 1:45pm
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After uninstalling, I usually wipe out everything in the Aurora directory except the Cache folder and Registration file; then do a reboot.
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 2:18pm
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You will need to open and resave your sequences to get the new "pop" ramps. Wiping out the entire directory after uninstall shouldn't be necessary, but it certainly would not hurt to remove the DLL and EXE files. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 2:19pm
You must have missed my last replies to every update. that being said the Candy Cane question was serious.
Slink ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 2:47pm
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Trying to remember what the candy cane issue was... could you refresh my memory?
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Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 3:03pm
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Slink, yes. There are fixes for ramps and missed commands. You should upgrade to this version. Let me know if you are still having issues with that sequence; I'll be happy to look at it again with this new build.
Everyone else:
Back up all your sequences first! ------------- ~Jonathan |
Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 3:08pm
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Also need to re-save sequences to get refresh points. See
http://www.lightsonlogan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=598 - http://www.lightsonlogan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=598
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Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 3:16pm
Alright i'll do it  Good time hopefully I'll get to see what my mind was thinking!!! It's almost like having a kid all that time waiting then ..... Wow totally pictured you differently, just joshin!
Slink ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: justinchamplin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2008 at 5:22pm
| hrrrmmm, i installed the new version, however I do not see any place to add a non show music playlist in the scheduler like it was said, did mine miss something in the install or is it missing from everyones? |
Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2008 at 5:25pm
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You'll find it under Settings, Playback Configuration in both Aurora Sequencer and Borealis Scheduler.
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Posted By: justinchamplin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2008 at 5:26pm
| thanks jon! |
Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2008 at 6:02pm
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"how do I get it to play PC radio station? "
Slink
Leaving this in here, and answering my own question.
Read the first post in this thread!
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Posted By: Slinkard
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2008 at 6:11pm
Okay This ROCKS!! Thanks much Micheal. I am now broadcast PC during the day. I'll let you know about the candy canes tonight. I tried it in the Aurora and they worked, but they always did. I will be trying Borealis in about an hour.
 Slink ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2008 at 7:27pm
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I don't think that I saw the short ramps turn into blinks last night...
Yes, I did open and save each sequence in .41.
I did not play the sequence before Borealis's schelue played though.
Today I didn't get to test because I was putting up the last mega arch, and then we were out too late. I'll try to see if the short ramps that I missed blink tomarow. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: Jonathan
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2008 at 8:26pm
The 'pop' effect is working fine in my show. 
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2008 at 8:32pm
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I've definitely seen the refresh points working
 Now - getting a play list or PC radio to play is pretty good. But - How do you get everything to stop when the lights go out (show over and closing sequence played) and you want silence.. In the testing I've done and on first show night after 1.0.41 Borealis never stops.. When I used the non-show audio option, once the show is over and the run-once closing sequence plays, it just goes back to playing the non-show stuff. Status bar shows waiting for next show. Never enters the stop state and ends.
This is ok if you have breaks of audio only between show schedules, but sooner or later you might want to shutdown. Or if you don't have breaks between schedules things never shutdown and end - From what I can determine it appears you're stuck in a endless loop until you manually click the Stop button or close the application.
I really like how the play list option works but had to abandon the thought of using it at this time because of the inability to end without manual intervention. -------------
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Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2008 at 10:31pm
Those planck-time ramps are soooo much smoother now!
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2008 at 9:20am
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??? My ramps are actually worse... I'm having problems with .2 ramps now with both Aurora and Borealis. I've opened the sequence, saved it, played it, closed it, opened it, played it, closed it, Borealis ran it, closed that, opened again in Aurora, played it... Same thing. .2sec ramp-outs don't show on the mega arch.
And... I did have an error. I had an area high-light to play, I was zoomed in ll the way looking at the .2sec ramp and I hit play. It started to do the compile thing, then errored out with a "could not load picture" error.
I could not find the error log for the exact error, and I could not reproduce. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2008 at 9:16am
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Nothing was changed for any ramps shorter than 0.17 seconds, so I'm not sure why you would be having any problems with 0.2 ramps. Since you are having problems though, just switch back to your old file that you backed up (the ramp changes are made at compile time, not during playback, so the old file will play identical to the way it did in 0.32/0.33. Do note that there are still outstanding issues with ramps in the 0.17 to 0.5 range on the ACx16 1.15 beta firmware. If you happen to be running that version (for the low load fix) you might want to look there. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2009 at 8:18pm
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Alright... So I'm starting to work on our 2009 light placement and quickly remembered agravating places within Aurora. There's a single issue (that cascade to a few issues) that drove me insane... The Stuck open window, then the following unable to open anything because I'm stuck "decompiling".
I'll start by saying that I added a new "controller", then went and started to draw. I drew 7 C9 lines (one per channel), then Aurora just closed. No error, no warning, no backup, no beep, just gone.
Okay, so I started over, all's well, Then I went to rename a channel from "1/11/10" to "1/11/10 - Garage 1" but I accidentally put in an "=" so I arrowed over to the = and put a -. Then the edit window was stuck open. Couldn't get it to close.
After killing Aurora though process manager, I'm stuck loading anything. This time I'm stuck at "Opening Table: Events".
Hopefully we can get this fixed, it's the only thing that's obnoxiously annoying in the software and the only real bug that I have.
Now I have to reboot and loose all of my work stuff that's up. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2009 at 8:43pm
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AAAAHHHHGGGGG!!!!!! I.... HATE..... RENAMEING..... That only took half an hour to crash again.
Would the crash analysis files help? I can save them before they vanish next time. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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Posted By: MrChristmas2000
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2009 at 7:46am
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I didn't get a change to enter this in the contest but here it is anyway.
http://www.vimeo.com/2877130 - http://www.vimeo.com/2877130
Please note on the opening frame the two arches are on. These are not supposed to be on (at least my sequence has supposedly turned them off). If you watch carefully there are pairs of arches (group of 16 channels) that either get stuck on or turn on semi randomly.
One other note the opening just turns all the channels on one group at a time then turns them off all at once. All the leaping arches are supposed to turn on but you can see that they do not. Also there is a star on the Mega tree that dosen't come on either. You can see that there is also some lag in getting everything turned off. The lights in the left upper bay window is on a d-light controller that dosen't go off period.
This display consisit of a mixture of d-light controllers and DMX equipment run by an LOR iDMX1000 controller. The problem mentioned above is generated through the iDMX to DMX channels.
However there are occassional sticking channels with the d-light controllers as well.
You will also note the LARGE delay between the opening sequence and the TSO song. The show is being run with the scheduler and that delay is produced by the scheduler. This sequence has 416 channels defined.
The show was running on a machine dedicated to running this show and that's all that was installed. The machine was running XP home with 2GB of memory.
Now that we are heading into the 2009 season it's time to start discussing these issues.
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2009 at 1:20pm
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MC.....how many lights are you running per channel on your arches?
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Posted By: MrChristmas2000
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2009 at 4:18pm
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Each arch has:
8 channels
each channel is a 100 count multi mini string, giving 800 lights per arch. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2009 at 4:33pm
Thats the same number I used. Part of the arch problem may be not enough lights on the channel. I had the same issue with my arches, although not all 7 channels at one time. I had sticky channels that stuck like 90% of the time in the same place on certain sequences. It was recommended that I throw some more lights on them, so at the end of the arch, I threw some spare 50 cnt sets I had on each channel of the arch and that solved it for about 90% of the catches. I'm not 100% this is a strictly Aurora Issue. ------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: MrChristmas2000
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2009 at 4:49pm
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Chris,
What controllers were you using? ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2009 at 5:19pm
I did same 8 chnls per arch, 100 minis per chnl - only had 2 arches. The arches worked excellent. Had sticky channels only on 1 ACx16 controller and it was only the channels that had short (36 inch) pieces of incadescent rope light. Single 9 ft, 2 inch per bulb LED ropes worked fine. Most of the time it seemed the refresh point in 1.0.41 turned off the stuck chnl, but not always. Sometimes they'd be on till end of sequence, but always went off at end of sequence. Seemed rather random - sometimes it was ok and sometimes it wasn't. Tried 1.13, 1.14, and 1.15 Beta firmware. 1.15 beta ended up being the one I left on the controller.
Don't think it's in Aurora.. Maybe when 1.15 firmware comes out for the ACx16 it'll be part of the fix but that's just a hopeful guess  .-------------
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2009 at 6:25pm
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D-light acx16's
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Posted By: MrChristmas2000
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2009 at 7:09pm
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I did not upgrade to 1.0.41 because when I tried it my whole show went whacky. The arches were jumpy, jerkey and just didn't look right.
This may be a challenge to figure out what is going wrong.
The arches are driven the the following manner:
Aurora > iDMX1000 > DMX dimmable controller.
I talked to LOR but they didn't go far with me because I wasn't driving it with LOR and kinda said that it could be a protocol problem with Aurora to the IDMX1000.
The iDMX1000 is suppoed to look to a LOR/d-light network just like any other LOR controller.
The funny thing is that it is a semi random problem. On some sequence segments the hardware responds properly but on others it just dosen't turn off at the correct point.
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2009 at 7:35pm
My issues with my arches were only during 3 of my 12 sequences ------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: deweycooter
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2009 at 12:30pm
Can you think of anything that those 3 had in common that set them apart from the others? When they were sequenced (possibly tied to a version?), specific types of patterns that they hung on (the pattern and maybe even the speed?)... ------------- http://www.deweycooter.com/wiki/index.php/Aurora - Aurora Lights Wiki http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2009 at 1:16pm
Yeah, I'm thinking it has to be related to the speed because there is only so many pattern you can do with the arches and I have the same patterns in multiple sequences that worked fine. I'm hoping the early videos I shot will show a few of the catches so I can figure out where they exactly were. After I added extra lights, the frequency of the problem was greatly reduced, (almost zero) unless a version change happened the same day which I dont recall. The version for the original arches would have been right around December 5th. I'll have to check the forum and see which version we were at that point in time. ------------- Chris www.lightsonsixth.com |
Posted By: BigDPS
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2009 at 3:53pm
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What I have seen is that depending on the humidity level on any particular day, I had channels sticking as well. I fixed the problem by adding a power adapter on the channel that would stick. Pain in the bum but (no pun) in solved the problem. It didn't matter how fast or slow the sequence was. The triacs in the controllers are way to finiky if you ask me. Aurora has nothing to do with these problems. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 8:29am
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Okay, so after formatting the tablet, Aurora seems to be running great. The only thing that I have not tried is to create a new sequence from scratch, but I don't see that being a problem now.
As a note, after formatting, Windows XP Tablet 2005 was installed. ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite!
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