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Aurora Animation Feature

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Category: Aurora Sequencer Software
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Topic: Aurora Animation Feature
Posted By: Aproct
Subject: Aurora Animation Feature
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2009 at 2:36pm
Okay, I have a question.  I have been viewing the old version of Aurora that I had from last year since I switched over from Spectrum.  This maybe something that will be answered in the 1.1 version tha tis  due to be released, but it there any availibity of the user being able to animate, let's say a sign or a lawn ornament in conjuction of a sequence playing?  What I am asking is if we set our systems, will there be a feature called animation which is something that can run independent and can be controlled by an outside remote?
 
 



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Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2009 at 2:40pm
Come on 19 views and no comments?


Posted By: dman776
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2009 at 4:12pm
Hmm.  I think I may be confused by what you are asking.  Are you talking about controlling something like an LEDTRicks panel??


Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 8:14am

Well, let's say you have a sequence running, the  lights are going through there performance.  On top of your roof you have santa that you want to control independent of the sequence.  In your hands you have a remote that when you click or activate, santa will light up on your demand seperate of the sequence.  But later that sanat may light u[p as part of a sequence in a later performance....the Santa would be on a seperate SSR being controlled by DIOs. 



Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 8:47am
There is no guarantee of DIO support for 2009 at this point in time.  It might still happen, but I can't guarantee it until some other things are completed first.
 
If you can do this with D-Light/LOR/DMX controllers instead of DIO, then there is a project in the works that could be used to accomplish your task (and much more), but I can't say anything about it at this point in time.


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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 8:48am
Never mind....Michael answered it for you

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Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 8:53am
What kind of time frame are we looking at?  It is already available via LOR...


Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 8:56am
See the controller is used for the seperate animation.  There is what I beleive a 12 or 16 pin which when I went and looked for in my D-light controller that I need, it isn't there.  So it would seem that you would need a "deifferent" controller.  But as for the support of the DIO, you are saying Aurora will not be able to uintergate both usage of the DIO and controllers?


Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 9:18am
There are significant milestones in the project plan that much be reached before a public time is committed to.  I do not prefer to announce a product date that is unreliable and then "scrub the launch".  I will certainly take your desire for a DIO plugin into consideration as the project plan is revised in the upcoming months.
 
We're all excited about what features Aurora might contain this year, and each request that lands here does receive serious attention.  Please understand that we don't want to lay out the entire play book for the competition to see either, so specific dates on when things will happen may sometimes remain undisclosed. 


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Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 9:27am
I understand not laying out to the competion what the upcoming plans are, but right now I am refer to items in a product that is already been released by others.  I am just trying to find out if Aurora will be going in that direction or a round about time frame. I understand the average individual may not be thinking about christmas in June, but I start creating new items for display and sequencing this time of the year.  Sorry, just would like to move forward if I can and plan around what is coming up. 


Posted By: dman776
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Aproct

There is what I beleive a 12 or 16 pin which when I went and looked for in my D-light controller that I need, it isn't there.

Can you explain this?  I don't understand what you are looking for?


Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 1:28pm
Yeah, how do I install a photo?


Posted By: tonyjmartin
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by Aproct

I understand the average individual may not be thinking about christmas in June, but I start creating new items for display and sequencing this time of the year.
Haven't been hanging around the decorating forums for very long, have you?

LOR has the ability to trigger sequences remotely via their controllers and their software.  To my knowledge, this feature does not yet allow the simultaneous operation of "mini-sequences" alongside scheduled sequences.  This is a relatively recent LOR feature, not to be confused with the stand-alone mode available in the deluxe version of LOR's Showtime controllers or using their MP3-Director units.  Other companies have their own priorities regarding what they and their current users feel is important, which may not necessarily be copying the most recent approach by another company.  Aurora is a very streamlined product, and to start adding every new gimmick just because another company has done it would be counter-productive.

Which doesn't mean that Aurora is in any way primitive.  In fact, it has many sophisticated sequencing features that have yet to be implemented in LOR, and at least a couple that are making their way into to Light Show Pro.  And unless you buy the full $139 version of LORS2 and then buy Holiday Lights Designer for another $49, then the visualizer in LORS2, for lack of a better term, sucks.  The unfortunate part of what is happening now is that there is a lot of focus on the newest gimmicks, and less on how to actually sequence your show.  It's like there are far too many people out there with far too much money and far too little talent.  For the next few years, I fear that we are going to see a whole lot of Nintendo-style displays, with a whole lot of DMX semi-pro gear tossed into peoples yards maquerading as art.

An example of this "Swiss Army Knife" approach would Light Show Pro.  If you really want interactive capabilities, then LSP can offer you the Nintendo Approach to Christmas displays.  But be warned...LSP is designed by a Microsoft Net Framework-oriented Programmer, so it is very memory/graphics/processor intense, and you will not be able to fully utilize its features without the most current computer at your disposal.  True, you can disable the most demanding parts of the program to streamline performance, but you will then be missing most of the "cool" features that are their selling point.  And it will still feel cumbersome to use.  You will also need to invest in Wii equipment to use their software as "Light Show Hero" (a similar approach to the video game Guitar Hero).

I'm a bit jaded, and I'm starting to ramble, but I did use the term "semi-pro" above intentionally.  It's amusing to hear how loosely the terms "artistic" and "professional" are tossed around the Christmas forums.  Especially in regards to approaches that are just not that hard to accomplish.  Sure, I could very easily get a second job to support my desire to make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlight_Express - Starlight Express throw up on my lawn, but if I really wanted to do that sort of stuff, I'd go back to working in entertainment.  But the hours are long, and the pay sucks.

Originally posted by Aproct

I understand not laying out to the competition what the upcoming plans are, but right now I am refer to items in a product that is already been released by others
Michael won't say this because he is a vendor, but I will.  By all means, if a company already has a product that you want, GO BUY IT!




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Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 1:53pm
your funny!


Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 2:07pm

I may just go and buy the software.  Software is Software. I am not slamming one company over another.   I have been at this for a little while now.  I am not someone who will be integrating DMX or other items of that nature.  I spend may hours sequencing show after show making sure things look good.  I am very hard on my own displays and the effects of it.  What I am looking for is a product that will contiue to expand based on the quick pace that this hobby is doing.  Like everything, everyone is always looking for the next big thing or what else can I do to improve on last years display.  Are you an individual to put up the same dipslay year after year?  I doubt it?  So how do you improve each year?  What new items do you add?  Don't slam me because I am asking about being able intergrate an animation feature into my nightly show.  Believe me the last effect I want on my Front yard is a TSO perfomance.  I am user who budgets x amount of dollars each year to this hobby.  Expensive as it is, I want a something that has room already built into it if not already exceeding my current usage.  I will admit that I was a prior specturm user.  I experience may problems with the programming and delays my shows.  I went to Aurora and was happy with it last year.  But like I said, i am an individual who wants to continure to improve my hobby.



Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 2:23pm
As stated earlier, things are in the works that will cover what you want to accomplish (and much more).  However, we can not give details or dates at this point in time for multiple reasons.

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Posted By: tonyjmartin
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by Aproct

Are you an individual to put up the same dipslay year after year?  I doubt it?  So how do you improve each year?  What new items do you add?

More lights.  New songs.  Better sequencing.

Originally posted by Aproct

Don't slam me because I am asking about being able intergrate an animation feature into my nightly show.

You aren't being slammed.  Your post prompted me to comment upon what I consider to be an unfortunate trend in the hobby.  As Annalisa (a.k.a.: http://crazylightlady.us/ - crazylightlady ) wrote to me nearly three years ago, I think that we are going to see some very unimaginative displays this year.  And so far, each new season unfortunately affirms that comment.


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Posted By: ChrisL1976
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 2:25pm
Originally posted by tonyjmartin

Originally posted by Aproct

I understand the average individual may not be thinking about christmas in June, but I start creating new items for display and sequencing this time of the year.
Haven't been hanging around the decorating forums for very long, have you?


Yeah, thats a funny one. (No disrespect intended in that) 


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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 2:46pm

It is time to calm it down a notch.  Product comparisons and trends in the hobby are all fair game, but there is no need to attack while discussing them. 

I believe the original question has been addressed.  If it has not, please let me know.



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Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 2:46pm
I have been hanging around in the forums for a while...I prefer not to add much because I rarely see much good come out of them.  It ends up being a mud slinging event or I am better than you kinda thing.  I have seen it may time on the Planet Christmas Forums.  It is ridicilous what occurs over there....Believe it is scary to see some displays out there where the timing is off or other issues.  Sorry to have ruffled feather here, but I jsut wanted to know what is new since I am not allowed in the beta testing forum.  I am not a follower and wait around for things to happen. 


Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 2:51pm
Originally posted by Aproct

It ends up being a mud slinging event or I am better than you kinda thing.  
I certainly hope we will always be more civil than that over here, but this is still the Internet, so who knows.  Everyone is an expert in their own opinion... some are just more vocal about it than others.


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Posted By: Aproct
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 2:54pm
I guess.  I was just trying to see what is happening and what I can expect with Aurora.  But it seems I will not get that answer right now.....Cry


Posted By: tonyjmartin
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by LightsOnLogan

It is time to calm it down a notch.  Product comparisons and trends in the hobby are all fair game, but there is no need to attack while discussing them.

Must have been an edit or a deleted post somewhere.  I see no attacks.


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