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  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2011 at 10:30pm
 Comments were made, responses posted. As I said before, I am letting it go.  Other forums have enough drama, we do not need it here.
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  Quote tonyjmartin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2011 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by JohnnyL

Chris, stay on the high road. You should be applauded for not stepping into the sewer, nor be condemned for your opinion.


Chris has repeatedly belittled my disagreeing with Aurora's recent decision for many days by taking all sorts of personal pot-shots here and elsewhere (i.e.: claiming that I resented Michael's mother's poor health here, etc.)  I INTENTIONALLY kept the discussion civil on the various forums, but then I let a bleeped word slip in this thread, and Chris is on the high road?  Lovely.




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  Quote JohnnyL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2011 at 7:36pm

Chris, stay on the high road. You should be applauded for not stepping into the sewer, nor be condemned for your opinion.

 

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  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2011 at 6:30pm
Originally posted by BigDPS

Sorry BigIndian, but I can't let it go.


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I do not believe BigIndian was referring to anyone sharing their opinion.  I am pretty sure it was a response to the difference of opinion between Mr Martin and myself.  Since it seemed Mr Martin got so emotional over someone with a different opinion than his own, he felt the only way to stop me from voicing my opinion was to "respectfully" use pretty bold profanity.  Out of respect for the rest of the community here, I chose just let it go and not respond so the community would not have to exposed to any more vulgar and inappropriate posts from Mr Martin.

I know on other forums, language such like that would result in immediate banning.  Whether any discipline actions result from this is up to Aurora, but I would ask Mr Martin to please in the future, remember this is a public forum where kids could be reading this and I am sure I not the only member who found the use of such language uncalled for and way out of line.




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  Quote BigDPS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2011 at 1:28pm
Sorry BigIndian, but I can't let it go. I have spent too much many as it is to upgrade to DMX. Wife will have my balls on a silver platter. Hate having to hide all knives/scissors every night ever since the word is Aurora is going DMX only.

How come nobody can answer my tiny question "where can we have this beta copy where the copy and paste is fixed?"

 If it works and Borealis understands it as it is, you can DMX, BMX, FBI, CIA, IGA or whatever you want with the program. Just don't stick a lollipop in our month long enough for us to like the taste to finally yank it out for no reason.

Is it too much to ask to have the beta copy and tells us, we are on our own? I'd be willing to take a chance rather than be stuck out in nowhere.

Just my 2 cents.

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  Quote Bigindian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2011 at 5:35am
Gentlemen,
 
In the interest of keeping this friendly, lets just agree to disagree.  We all have our opinions and ideas.  Before this gets out of hand, lets just let it go. 
 
I agree with both of you and I am sure that many will agree with both of you.  Lets just let it go. 
 
Please?
 
 
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  Quote tonyjmartin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 10:37pm
Originally posted by ChrisL1976

I'm just merely voicing my opinion on my stance on the situation. Kind of like you are voicing you opinion on every post someone makes.  

I am not voicing my opinion on "every post someone makes."  And just because you make an analogy, that doesn't make it true.  But I'll make one, since you seem to like them so much.  Having a discussion with you is like trying to reason with a drunk, so I will modify my polite request to more aptly coincide with your level of understanding:

With all due respect. Chris, SHUT THE f**k UP!

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  Quote JohnnyL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 9:38pm

A brief history. I am a pre order customer. I, like many was a little “frustrated” (I’m being nice here) with Spectrum. We all remember our shows not working as they should. I discovered the Aurora site and bought it on the spot. Although I was still using LOR to get through that season, we planned to use Aurora in 09. All I could say was WOW, how simple it was going to be to program the new RGB stuff we had planned. This was a very nice program, simple, basic and easy use. Then, we discovered the “freak strobe like effects” bug when hooked up to a DCx16 (or 3). I reported this “bug” and though a couple of people did try to help, (you know who you are) the “big guy” was absent and this problem was never resolved. Doing some testing I also discovered importing  channels from an existing sequence didn’t work very well. All of the “f...fly” channels import flawlessly, the other RGB channels did not! This had to be remedied manually. It doesn’t really take that much time to do but it is hassle and this should have been addressed… it was not addressed. It was barely even acknowledged. We decided to use Aurora despite its “little bugs”. Although we were (2) songs short in 09 because of the DCx16 thing we still had a good season, I wont say it was flawless but all in all it was good. The scheduler has its “bugs”. Aurora likes to entertain the good folks from the bar 2 blocks away staring @midnight. That was pretty funny when I shut it down @1:30am and heard cars starting and leaving. I saw others were experiencing the same “bug” with no results. Now, I no longer trust this program to run my shows. I’ve become convinced the powers that be have absolutely no interest in addressing my issues or anyone else’s for that matter. Updates, fixes and deadlines too numerous to count were promised and none have come to pass. Then, right after a very good friend of mine purchased one of last licenses, he decides to make Aurora “Freeware”. He is still not too happy about that. (sorry Danny) So my credibility takes a hit. I won’t elaborate further on credibility. Then Aurora is back in business, all is well. More promises are made, deadlines and guarantees and goodwill flows again. Then, he announces on “Facebook” (not here of coarse) that it will be DMX only! Are you kidding me? REALLY ? It isn’t our fault that you cannot or will not keep up on firmware updates coming from D-Light or LOR and adapt Aurora to stay current. It must be a lot easier from Aurora’s standpoint to take the DMX route. The competition does it all, if you haven’t noticed. Maybe, just maybe if there was some kind of consistency coming from Aurora sales might have been higher. Don’t you think? Do you think there is a reason “beta testers” don’t have the same problems we do is because they are using a “newer version” that isn’t available to the rest of us? I will purchase LSP for this year and relegate Aurora to be a backup program just in case LSP hasn’t fixed anything either. He seems to know who is buttering the bread over there and actually DOES try to fix things. So I guess instead of paying to upgrade my Aurora license (which I was fully prepared to do) Ill spend it on LSP instead and we’ll see what happens…

 

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  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 8:52pm
Originally posted by tonyjmartin

then I ask that you give Aurora the opportunity to respond to its users' concerns as it sees fit.



I'm just merely voicing my opinion on my stance on the situation. Kind of like you are voicing you opinion on every post someone makes.  

I'm sure when Michael sees fit, I am sure he will let us know what his plan is.
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  Quote bdkeen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 5:32pm
Christmas Lighting of this nature is definitely a niche' market. Don't know about anyone else but I've been asked so many times I can't remember by folks looking and wanting to get involved what I recommend in both hardware and software.. I've always highly recommended Aurora..
Would I now recommend Aurora? Not sure I would any more, will have to wait and see what the future brings to those of us not ready to fully jump on the DMX train.
 
Perhaps if we had the knowledge and experiences that someone in the beta group has had and could have grown along with Aurora to the point the decision was made we might be singing a different tune. But to have been slightly mislead to think a newer, better version was just around the corner, then told DMX only (and I think that was announced in Facebook - don't think there's the same official announcement on these forums to date and Aurora web site pages point at 1.1 - not one word of mention what's going on here and on facebook)
 
But for the moment when someone asks me "What's the best software for doing the lights?" I'm not going to be able to give them the same answer as I once did - will probably just keep silent.
 
 
On another thought - Whatever happened to the plug-in concept? Much the same as Vixen currently supports the many different controllers and devices? Will this new fangled DMX only version support plug-ins for various controller and device types?
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