Aurora Support Forum: What... The... Frig??? Shimmer Ramps.

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I'm just checking, because there are two device type options in channel properties. The first (e.g. ACx16) doesn't render shimmer ramps. The second (e.g. ACx16 v1.13+) does render the ramps. If you have the wrong version of hardware selected in channel properties, then the behavior you mention is normal. Here's why:

Under those circumstances, when the sequence is "compiled", all shimmer ramps will be susbstituted with something that the specified hardware will support (D-Light firmware prior to 1.13 did not support shimmer ramps). Compiling is a step in either saving the file, or previewing it via send to lights. The uncompiled data is not saved to the file. When you re-open the file, it is decompiled to editable form, including any substitutions that were done.

If you have the proper device type specified, then it is possible you have a bad install (your version of the AuroraData component could be one that predates shimmer ramp functionality even though your main program supports it)

Edited by LightsOnLogan - 11 Dec 2009 at 8:49am

Need to make sure... the channel is set to a device type that supports ramping shimmer, correct?

Is this with LOR or D-Light hardware?

weird!

The channels were acting funny, I'll check to see if it's graphical or actual next time though.

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Okay, I set some ramping shimers, then save, then close, then open the same file ans they are no onger shimers, they are now normal ramps!!!??? WEIRD!

I've done this at least a dozen times.

Anyone else every see this?

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Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Topic: What... The... Frig??? Shimmer Ramps. Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 1:02pm
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LightsOnLogan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3187	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 11:14am
	Do these shimmer ramps have a duration less than 0.17 seconds?


LightsOnLogan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3187	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 8:46am
	I'm just checking, because there are two device type options in channel properties. The first (e.g. ACx16) doesn't render shimmer ramps. The second (e.g. ACx16 v1.13+) does render the ramps. If you have the wrong version of hardware selected in channel properties, then the behavior you mention is normal. Here's why: Under those circumstances, when the sequence is "compiled", all shimmer ramps will be susbstituted with something that the specified hardware will support (D-Light firmware prior to 1.13 did not support shimmer ramps). Compiling is a step in either saving the file, or previewing it via send to lights. The uncompiled data is not saved to the file. When you re-open the file, it is decompiled to editable form, including any substitutions that were done. If you have the proper device type specified, then it is possible you have a bad install (your version of the AuroraData component could be one that predates shimmer ramp functionality even though your main program supports it) Edited by LightsOnLogan - 11 Dec 2009 at 8:49am


Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 10:28pm
	Oh, yea, sure. We're all D-Light hardware around here. That controller has 1.16 F/W on it. RS485 adapter V3. Aurora 1.0.69 All new for this season. It's just that when it's just doing tons of shimmer-ramps for over a minute, it's hard to follow where the UI shows the non-shimmer-ramp, and watch that closely. Since it's hard for me to se, I know that no one will see the difference if there is any.
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LightsOnLogan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3187	Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 10:20pm
	Need to make sure... the channel is set to a device type that supports ramping shimmer, correct? Is this with LOR or D-Light hardware?


Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 9:03pm
	Well, my shimmers are a bit short to tell so it's not a problem.
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Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 8:38pm
	weird! The channels were acting funny, I'll check to see if it's graphical or actual next time though.
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LightChristmas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Beta Testers Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Location: Equality, IL Online Status: Offline Posts: 993	Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 8:20pm
	Yup... In this instance a 100%-0% shimmer ramp adjoining a 100% shimmer causes the 100% shimmer to change to solid 100%. Haven't dumped it to lights to see if its just a graphic error, though. Seeing the same thing happen in 1.0.4x and 1.0.6x.


Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 7:53pm
	Okay, I set some ramping shimers, then save, then close, then open the same file ans they are no onger shimers, they are now normal ramps!!!??? WEIRD! I've done this at least a dozen times. Anyone else every see this?
	Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. D-Light users Unite!