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    Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 9:29pm
What about 1.15 beta? How that running for you all in comparison?
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Originally posted by JohnnyL

i had sticky channels last year too. 1.16 cured it. 1.17 brought the stickies back. so i went back to 1.16.
Hmmmm... I think I was just noticing this. I had various versions across my network, but took everything up to v1.17 today and have been seeing some missed and stuck commands. I guess I need to try to go back to 1.16.
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Posts: 67 		  Quote JohnnyL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 4:50pm
yes it cured it for me. as soon as 1.17 was installed i noticed sticking channels on 3 controllers and the ramps looked terrible. the difference between 1.16 and 1.17 was night and day. i had one controller lose its ID on 1.16 i reassigned it and swapped out the Cat-5's just in case and have been trouble free (fingers crossed) ever since.
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.16 cured it? I thought that was only the LED fix.
I know that other people have sticking channels, but not sure about the adapter version.
I'll have more time over the weekend, so I'll try to determine better what firmware is sticking, make the new cable, re-set the IDs, try downgrading to .41, and upgrading the 1.15beta arch that's sticking.
See if any of those changes make a difference.
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Posts: 67 		  Quote JohnnyL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 12:23am
i had sticky channels last year too. 1.16 cured it. 1.17 brought the stickies back. so i went back to 1.16. has anyone else besides yourself had issues with the new adapter?
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HWU ran on a sungle network.
Have not ran the show on a single network.
It's not damaged, and looks good its entire length, but I'll try and cut a new calble tomarow to test that.
 
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Posts: 67 		  Quote JohnnyL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 11:58pm
 what happens when you run a single network? are you using the v3 adapter or v2? are you certain your cat-5's are good?
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Posts: 551 		  Quote Pony_God Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 11:13pm
Okay, so I did do some more testing since I was up and it was bugging me.
The net 1 cat5 is 150 foot. net 2 is at least 225 foot.
Test was done with HWU with ALL and fastest chase.
I let it go and just watched the arch and the tree (last two controllers on the line, and the two that lost the IDs.)
Ever 8 seconds or so a channel would stick. The same channel on both of the last two controllers.
I moved the cable even further away from power, I'll try to cut a new cable and see if everything clears up.
I did happen to try another usb-RS485 adapter and it acted the same.
That doesn't explain the first two controllers of net 2 sticking though. (Yes, I did run the HWU on net 2 and nothing stick with that.)
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I don't think there was a change between 41 and 69 - I just recently upgraded (last week).  The hard part is the uncertainty that has been seen with up/downgrading.  I'd try on a spare machine first, though it may be as easy as doing the same process as upgrading:  uninstall current version via control panel, reboot, install preferred version, reboot.
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I thought that there was a DB change between the two. Can .41 load a .69 sequence? If Borialis can run .69 sequences I can downgrade the server.
Disconver can not find the two controllers.
With the hardware utility, and ALL checked, ON/chase/twinkle/etc all get to the controller.
If they have an ID, I could not see it. I went from ID 1 though 20 and tested each with ON, and did not get them to respond. (One of the IDs is 12, I don't remember the other off-hand.)
cat5 100'? more? I can measure tomarow. It's less than last year because of the seperate networks. Net 1 is not terminated, net 2 is.
Sequences did change, I copied last years, and then imported this year's channels. I can send the one that I know has the error.
Durring any hardware tests, everything seems fine, but that's totally different software, speed, etc.
And that's how I understand a stuck software channel, partially. I see three options.
1. Software - sending bad data down the wire
2. Firmware - not obeying the commands
3. Hardware - triacs, etc.
As I see it.
3. The hardware seems fine, it can act normall and to firmware tests, and HWU tests.
2. Possibly, but some have the same firmware as last year and did not have as many stuck channels. If it was firmware, I would expect simmilar results.
That leavs option 1 again.
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