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    Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 10:30pm
ok.....now that I can get Aurora to run on my machine, I have a question.  When I start up aurora, I always get the UAC message asking to run the program.  When I start up D-light HWU it goes right into the program?   Why does it ask for one and not the other?
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  Quote JonB256 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 8:12am
It has to do with sub-routines. Aurora uses helper programs that are in remote, protected directories. UAC is letting you know that Aurora is "crossing the line."

The HW_Util is standalone. It doesn't cross any folder/directory boundaries so UAC is happy.
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  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 8:33am
and there's no way to shut that off for Aurora I assume....
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  Quote LightsOnLogan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 10:40am

JohnB256 is barking up the right tree but doesn't quite have it...

It is when Aurora attempts to write to its own directory (configuration files, log files, etc.) that UAC complains.  The current MS approved notation for such data is supposed to be kept in "C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Application Data\Vendor Name\Program Name\".  Aurora doesn't do this and instead just stores them in the same directory as the exe (we chose to do it this way to make tech support easier before we knew about the UAC issue).  UAC doesn't like it.  It is a very poor/weak security that UAC uses though... I've heard (but havent tried it) that if the program is installed somewhere outside the Program Files heirachy (e.g. "C:\Aurora") then UAC doesn't even do this check at all.

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  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:07am
Originally posted by LightsOnLogan

JohnB256 is barking up the right tree but doesn't quite have it...

It is when Aurora attempts to write to its own directory (configuration files, log files, etc.) that UAC complains.  The current MS approved notation for such data is supposed to be kept in "C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Application Data\Vendor Name\Program Name\".  Aurora doesn't do this and instead just stores them in the same directory as the exe (we chose to do it this way to make tech support easier before we knew about the UAC issue).  UAC doesn't like it.  It is a very poor/weak security that UAC uses though... I've heard (but havent tried it) that if the program is installed somewhere outside the Program Files heirachy (e.g. "C:\Aurora") then UAC doesn't even do this check at all.



So when you start Aurora, it tries to write to those files to the Aurora folder and triggers the UAC?

I did find a application that will mute the UAC warning......maybe I'll try that and see what happens.   The UAC is still on, it just doesn't pop up the message




Edited by ChrisL1976 - 02 Oct 2008 at 11:08am
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  Quote Pony_God Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:09am
That still kinda defeats the UAC's point though.
Is it only for specific applications or everything?
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  Quote LightChristmas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:15am
Got bored.Smile Reinstalled to root directory. No dice.

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  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:17am
Here's the review of the TweakUAC Utility software from PC world. 

What's the biggest annoyance for Windows Vista users? Hands-down, it's User Account Control (UAC), which nags at you to enter a password or click OK every time you make certain changes or perform certain actions. You can turn UAC off in Vista if you'd like, but that leaves you vulnerable. So you might like to turn it on sometimes and off other times.

This program solves the problem neatly. It lets you quickly and easily turn UAC on and off. Better yet, it lets you put UAC into "quiet mode," which in essence turns off UAC for administrators, but keeps it on for everyone else. The program is free, and fixes a big-time Vista annoyance. What else could you ask for?

Tweak UAC website



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  Quote Pony_God Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:20am
Originally posted by ChrisL1976

Better yet, it lets you put UAC into "quiet mode," which in essence turns off UAC for administrators, but keeps it on for everyone else.
 
BUt that means that it's still off. I'd rather deal with the extra click rather the any security issues.
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  Quote ChrisL1976 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:27am
Your right, it basically turning off UAC without the side affect of the annoying Warning box that UAC is disabled.


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