Long Audio - Aurora Disappears
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Topic: Long Audio - Aurora Disappears
Posted By: bdkeen
Subject: Long Audio - Aurora Disappears
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 11:56am
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Decided to try sequencing Disney's Believe in Holiday Magic (full length version) which shows in Media player to be 13:29 in length. Aurora makes the attempt to import the audio and has even gone as far as creating the file within the cache directory. But Poof! and Aurora simply disappears from the screen not long after the 'gas gauge' shows the audio is almost fully complete.
Using Roxio sound editor I've tried shortening the audio length several times. 6:45 loads, 9:15 doesn't and results in the Poof - Gone. Obvious conclusion for me is there's a limit that I muust be exceeding (saw this in some other thread I think but thought it was longer than 9 minutes 15 seconds)
No errors, no indications that anything has gone astray. Will play around and see if I can find the cut off point between the 6:45 that loads and the 9:15 that causes Poof.
Update - 7:15 doesn't work 6:47 works. ------------- 
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 1:28pm
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The present hard limit should be 33:20. What file format is the song in? ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: LightChristmas
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 1:52pm
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Also, use Media Player to rip a new track from your CD and have MP save it in WAV format. Don't try editing anything yet. Just see if it will load. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/"> 
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 2:03pm
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I've tried .mp3, .wma, and .wav formats.. 16-bit 44.1kHz stereo.
On the remix of 6:47 in length (.mp3, .wma, or .wav - all work) I'm able to create a new sequence and load the audio file and begin to sequence.
But - it too chrashed at one point during the sequencing and the log file indicates:
Aurora Error Encountered at 9/10/2008 2:15:06 PM
Debugging Information: 70: Permission denied Get Times LightsOnLoganSequencer Aurora Error Encountered at 9/10/2008 2:15:09 PM Debugging Information: 28: Out of stack space Initialize Mouse Pointers LightsOnLoganSequencer I saw this permissions denied on at least 2 other occassions but don't recall anything particular that I was doing - attributed it to me doing something stupid perhaps.. I can't seem to regularly reproduce the Permission denied error. In the last instance I was sequencing and previewing - happened when trying to preview. I believe it may have just started generating the preview frames (but I could be mistaken)
I've got my christmas show completed - and a few extra sequences in case I want to split into 2 shows, so for me this is no real problem.. Just wanted to try sequencing something long. Let me know if you'd like, for testing, the original 13:something audio file where I originally ran into failure and I'll email it to you. -------------
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 2:20pm
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LightsChristmas
Can't rip - No CD - just the .mp3 that caused the problem. Seems to work ok in everything else Media Player, All the Roxio 10 audio applications, etc...- although I never used it - even loaded into Spectrum ok.
Be nice if there was some sort of warning that there's a problem - not just Poof and the application is gone with no sort of indication it ran.. No trace of it having run other than the look of amazement on my face because it diisappeared right in front of my eyes.
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Posted By: autotime
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 2:40pm
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do i need to have u485 adapter hooked up for sequencer to open ------------- |
Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 2:48pm
I don't and the sequencer and the scheduler open just fine for me. Of course I can't test anything to the controllers without it, but I've done all my sequencing without the 485 adapter plugged into the computer. Everything works fine for me when I plug it in to do my testing. -------------
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Posted By: autotime
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 2:54pm
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im still in the trying to open sequencer phase got a little farther but still closes after it detects channels. have you heard of this? ------------- |
Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 4:13pm
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Maybe not the exact same, but since I don't have the original CD - I burned the audio to a CD, insured it plays in multiple cd players around the house, Then re-ripped, both .wma and ripped again in .wav.. Neither of these work - Aurora spends an extremely long time - to the tune of 10 + minutes and Poof - disappears with no trace of execution. Both the .wma and .wav re-ripped play fine in all other audio apps installed that support them. -------------
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Posted By: JonB256
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 4:28pm
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Is it possible that Aurora is mistakenly timing out as an "unregistered version?"
Have you (bdkeen or autotime) entered your registration key in this version or any previous version? ------------- JonB - D-Light user |
Posted By: autotime
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 4:35pm
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i did enter it last week in one of them 1.0 or 1.0b not sure which but deleted program so many times and tried alot of stuff. thanks tim
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 5:03pm
Yes - Been using this since 0.2.0 - I am not in demo mode. -------------
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 5:21pm
A little off topic from the problem I am experiencing with long duration audio file
But are you importing a Spectrum file? If importing can you start a new sequence using the audio track and do anything? Once apon a time I did have some difficulty with only certain audio files but have been really stable since version 0.3.0.
Far as I know - I'm only having a problem with this one particular 13 minute + audio file. I would much perfer to sequence shorter audio tracks so I can mix them up in most any fashion for a show rather than trying to do 13+ minutes in one sequence and will probably opt to split up my culprit audio file since I know that shorter duration segments seem to work ok.
If you are importing and might wish try opening an existing Aurora (.dls) file? I'm sharing my 2008 sequences and have 19 or so you can download on my website if you want to try - you'll need the corresponding audio (listed on website).
I've had good luck with all import file formats (Spectrum, LOR1, and LOR2) some of my sequences started life as these formats. -------------
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Posted By: LightsOnLogan
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 5:26pm
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I knew I had this up on the server somewhere and had to go searching for it...
http://www.aurorashow.com/downloads/testtone.zip - http://www.aurorashow.com/downloads/testtone.zip
Warning: Very large file download!!! This is a 10 minute test tone reference file which works in the lab. Let me know if it works on your PC or not. ------------- http://www.aurorashow.com/">
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2008 at 6:32pm
Test Tone Test fails for me. Same sort of results.
Thought it was strange the difference in size between original testtone.wav and the .wav created in the cache folder so checked in media player and the original .wav downloaded indicates 10:00 in Media Player - .wav cache file created only shows 8:07
Tried it 2 more times, same results except each subsequent run the .wav file created in the cache folder got a little smaller. -------------
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Posted By: JonB256
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2008 at 1:43pm
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I know that the actual file size limit is over 1GB for FAT32, but could your hard drive be formatted as FAT32 instead of NTFS? Does it desperately need defragmentation? Is there anything else non-standard about your hard drives that might be interrupting the data? Have you tried turning off Anti-Virus or any other active program like Microsoft Office's FindFast or Google indexing? ------------- JonB - D-Light user |
Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2008 at 1:50pm
No I'm not going to reformat to FAT32.. I'm building another workstation to test with now - there's too many other things I use my computer for and rebuilding is out of the question.
Don't use FastFind or Google.. Antivirus did cross my mind but I sort of doubt this to be the cause.
Fragmentation is not the problem. -------------
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2008 at 7:10pm
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I think I've proven that there's something strange going on in my PC.. I just built a Windows 2003 R2 server and installed 1.0b. By passed the test tome and went right for the 13:49 min audio file that gives me problems on my pc.
Worked like a champ! This being said I'll withdraw my problem as a possible bug.. I'm not at all convinced it's Aurora.
It's pretty wild doing it through a Remote Desktop (RDP) connection.. I can vouch that Windows 2003 R2 works, Aurora installs and works via RDP.
On a side note I attempted an installation on Windows 2008 - Failure with VideoEdit.ocx not registering, can't manually register it either.. But then I fully expected a possible problem because I was trying to install on a non supported OS.. But in the event anyone ever asks the question - It doesn't install properly, nor work on the Windows 2008 OS.
Now I'll trouble shoot my workstation - something 'quirky' happening there.
Thanks
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Posted By: Pony_God
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2008 at 7:48pm
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2008 is 64bit only, isn't it? That could be the problem.
I haven't installed it anywhere yet... ------------- Fine. You're so smart you rig up the lights. http://www.frappr.com/dlight - D-Light users Unite! 
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Posted By: bdkeen
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2008 at 8:33pm
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BINGO! I found the problem!
There's apparently a conflist of sorts with Roxio Easy Media Creator 10 Suite.
I deinstalled all the stuff I really don't use. About the only thing left was the Roxio. While trying to create a new sequence using the test tone I went into Task manager and started to terminate the process I recognized are associated with the Roxio suite.. All of a sudden the Audio import took off like a rocket!
Since I had already created on a different workstation a sequence for the 13:45 minute audio file tht originally gave me problems I tried loading it. Since it had never been cached the spectograph processes took a little time but it loaded with no problems.
Now I just need to figure out how to handle the Roxio stuff - The lights are more important
 In conclusion it's not really a problem with Aurora, but there appears to be some compatability issue when installed along with Roxio 10.. They don't play well together. -------------
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